659 FXUS66 KLOX 201804 AAA AFDLOXArea Forecast Discussion...UPDATED National Weather Service Los Angeles/Oxnard CA 1104 AM PDT Sat Sep 20 2025
updated aviation discussion
.SYNOPSIS...20/156 AM.
A warming and drying trend will continue today. Isolated showers cannot be ruled out over the mountains this afternoon, but drier southwest flow should continue to stabilize the air mass. Monsoonal moisture will begin to move north again on Sunday, and a return of convective storms is possible as early as Sunday afternoon and evening. Any shower activity for the coastal and valley areas will likely delay until Tuesday.
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.SHORT TERM (TDY-MON)...20/320 AM.
The latest water vapor imagery indicates an upper-level ridge of high pressure over the region this morning, while an upstream cutoff trough sits off the California coast. The low cloud field is pretty broken up due to a weak marine inversion in place, but the most coverage of low clouds is along the Central Coast and into the Santa Ynez Valley.
A drier southwest flow aloft will continue today across the region. Marginal PoPs remain in the forecast over the western portion of the Transverse Ranges due to just enough moisture in place and some diffluence with the weak trough offshore. High resolution multi-model ensemble members favor shower chances over the Santa Barbara and Ventura County mountains this afternoon and evening. People planning to travel mountain roads and/or participate in outdoor activities today should be prepared for brief heavy downpours, gusty and erratic winds, and dangerous lightning.
Ridging aloft in place will bring a warming trend through the weekend. Weak onshore flow with less cloud coverage will allow for a slight warming trend to develop for the valley, mountain, and desert areas. Closer to the coast, the onshore flow should inhibit the bulk of the warming.
The latest model solutions and forecast ensembles continue to indicate a surge of monsoonal moisture moving north between Sunday and Tuesday. The moisture, associated with a tropical disturbance off the Baja California coast, will be transported northward as the weak cutoff trough off the coast approaches the coastline. The cyclonic flow pattern will entrain some tropical moisture. PoPs could increase as soon as Sunday. High resolution multi-model ensemble members give a likely (60-70 percent) chance of precipitable water values exceeding 1 inch by Sunday across southern Los Angeles County. This agrees well with AI integrated EPS ensemble members which increase PWAT values around to 1.1 inches at KLAX by Sunday afternoon, but the bulk of the moisture looks to remain to the south until late Monday night or early Tuesday morning. The PoP forecast for coastal and valleys areas goes with NBM values for Sunday, but PoPs were increased across the mountains and desert to account for isolated showers that could pop up.
.LONG TERM (TUE-FRI)...20/320 AM.
The latest forecast ensembles increase precipitable water value means through Tuesday to near 1.50 inches as the weak cutoff trough slowly approaches the California coast. This should bring a return of showers and thunderstorms to the area between Monday night and Tuesday night as the moisture interacts with the instability provided by the trough. A similar approach was applied to PoPs for Monday through Wednesday, allowing for the forecast for coastal and valley areas to go with NBM values, but PoPs were increased across the mountains and desert to account for increased convection over the areas.
The trough should pass by to the east for late week and bring some warming and drying.
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.AVIATION...20/1802Z.
At 17Z at KLAX, the marine layer was 900 ft deep. The top of the inversion was at 1400 ft with a temperature of 20 C.
High confidence in VFR TAFs for desert airfields (KWJF and KPMD). Generally hi confidence for KPRB TAF as there is a 20% chance of IFR/LIFR cigs/vsbys 12Z-16Z Sun, otherwise VFR conds are expected.
Overall, moderate confidence in remaining TAFs. Timing of CIG/VSBY restrictions and flight cats may be off +/- 2 hours when CIGs are present.
KLAX...Moderate confidence in 18Z TAF. There is a 40% chance of IFR/MVFR cigs thru this afternoon. Otherwise, arrival and clearing times of the low clouds may be off +/- 2 hours & there is a 20%-30% chance of 003-004 LIFR CIGs after 09Z Sun through 15Z Sun. No significant east wind component expected thru forecast period.
KBUR...Moderate confidence in 18Z TAF. There is a 50% chc of IFR cigs 14Z-17Z Sun. Otherwise, VFR conditions are expected through forecast period.
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.MARINE...20/850 AM.
For the Outer Waters, moderate to high confidence in current forecast. Through this morning, high confidence in winds and seas remaining below Small Craft Advisory (SCA) levels. However, winds may approach SCA levels south of Point Conception at times tonight. For Saturday afternoon and evening, there is a 70% chance of SCA level winds across PZZ673/676 and a 30% chance across PZZ670. For Sunday through Tuesday, there is a 60-80% chance of SCA level winds across all of the Outer Waters. For the rest of the work week, moderate chances each afternoon & evening likely focused south of Point Conception.
For the Inner Waters north of Point Sal, moderate to high confidence in current forecast. Through today, high confidence in winds and seas remaining below SCA levels, except for the far NW portion of PZZ645 where there is a moderate chance of SCA level wind gusts during the late afternoon/eve hours today. For Sunday through Tuesday, there is a 30-40% chance of SCA level winds in the afternoon and evening hours. On Wednesday, Good confidence in winds and seas remaining below SCA levels.
For the Inner Waters south of Point Conception, moderate to high confidence in current forecast. There is a 60% chance of SCA level winds during the late afternoon/eve hours today across the western/southern portions of the Santa Barbara Channel and this may last into the late night hours. Slightly lower chances on Sunday. Low chc on Monday, before increasing to moderate Tuesday & Wednesday. Otherwise across the southern Inner Waters, Good confidence in winds and seas generally remaining below SCA levels through Monday.
Although there is a spread in model solutions, the general consensus is that a closed upper low will draw tropical moisture over the coastal waters early next week. Rain chances could begin over far southern portions of PZZ655/676 Sunday afternoon, but as of now coverage looks to be limited.
For Monday & Tuesday, widespread showers with the potential for thunderstorms is possible across the coastal waters, with the highest impacts likely south of Point Conception.
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.LOX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... CA...NONE. PZ...Small Craft Advisory in effect from 6 PM this evening to 3 AM PDT Sunday for zone 650. (See LAXMWWLOX). Small Craft Advisory in effect from 3 PM this afternoon to 9 AM PDT Sunday for zones 673-676. (See LAXMWWLOX).
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