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Norris, Montana Weather Forecast Discussion

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Area Forecast Discussion National Weather Service Great Falls MT 143 AM MDT Fri Oct 3 2025

.KEY MESSAGES...

- Periods of rain early today across portions of the plains and vicinity, with a few showers and thunderstorms this afternoon.

- Initial push of cooler air arrives today into tonight, with areas of precipitation developing mostly over Southwest Montana late tonight into Saturday.

- Coldest push of air arrives late Saturday into Sunday, sending snow levels significantly lower. At least light snow accumulations in many mountains late Saturday night through Sunday.

- Coldest morning of the season so far on Monday.

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.DISCUSSION...

- Meteorological Overview:

Today:

Initial concerns today are related to a band of rain lifting northeastward across western portions of the region early this morning. Sufficient mid-level (700mb) frontogenesis advancing northeastward ahead of the base of a large scale trough off the coast of northern CA will result in a period of rain this morning, mainly for areas west of I-15. The frontogenetic nature of the rain will result in a somewhat narrow band of rain, hence resulting in noticeable differences in precipitation amounts over short distances (Less than 50 miles).

This band lifts northeastward through the morning before beginning to subside early this afternoon across the plains as forcing weakens. Areas on the Hi-Line east of I-15 and west of US-87 will have a narrow window to see light rain before the band subsides.

Attention then quickly turns toward Southwest Montana this afternoon ahead of a cold front advancing southeastward from western Montana. There appears to be a narrow window ahead of the front (Largely south of US-12 and east of I-15) where sufficient surface heating will result in marginal instability this afternoon. Should the more aggressive scenario play out (Greater instability), there would be a window ahead of the front for a few stronger thunderstorms. Forecast soundings do not show much in way of DCAPE, so the expectation would be for hail to be the greater concern, especially given the overall cooler profiles (Surface temperatures largely in the 60s).

The aforementioned front will result in the initial push of cooler air into the region ahead of a more significant cool down alter in the weekend.

Tonight into Saturday:

Heading into tonight, the upper trough mentioned previously near CA will shift eastward into NV before shifting northeastward toward UT/ID/WY heading into Saturday. A shield of precipitation looks to extend northwest from this troughing beginning late tonight, but ramps up more during the day Saturday across Southwest Montana and vicinity, largely east of I-15. Although cooler air will be moving in, the timing of the precipitation (During the day) helps mitigate concern for accumulating snow away from the high peaks in Southwest Montana east of I-15. Snow levels over the Gallatins/Madisons and vicinity look to drop to around 7,500 ft Saturday afternoon. Rain will be the precipitation type at lower elevations through Saturday.

Saturday night through Monday morning:

While larger scale troughing moves through WY and vicinity during the day Saturday, a smaller scale trough on the western side of broader troughing in AB/SK will be advancing southeastward toward the Northern Rockies. This troughing arrives late Saturday into Saturday night and brings the most significant push of colder air across the region heading into Sunday along with another wave of precipitation. Snow levels fall significantly with this trough, resulting in at least light snow accumulations in many mountain areas, even bringing brief opportunities for snow in higher elevation areas near terrain. Areas that have the greatest potential for more moderate impacts from snow include the Glacier NP area as well as the Madisons/Gallatins/Tobacco Root mountains, where a Winter Storm Watch remains in effect.

Precipitation gradually diminishes toward late Sunday into Sunday night. Attention then turns to cold overnight lows by Monday morning across all areas. Clearing skies behind the departing systems will allow for temperatures to fall well into the 20s in most areas. Fog will also be a concern Monday morning where skies are quickest to clear.

Monday onward:

Upper level ridging is favored to redevelop across the west early next week, allowing for another drier stretch, with temperatures rising to near or a touch above average.

Confidence in the forecast decreases significantly after mid-week, as ensemble spread increases associated with another period of upper level troughing moving in across the Pacific Northwest. Magnitude and timing of any troughing that does develop is low confidence. Add on top of that that there is still a subset of guidance (~20% or so) that favors ridging into late next week, it results in a wide range of potential outcomes. -AM

- Forecast Confidence & Scenarios:

Thunderstorms today: The initial point of uncertainty is related to just how much instability is able to be realized this afternoon and evening across portions of Southwest Montana ahead of the cold front. HREF probabilities for 250 m2/s2 surface based cape are around 70% between WHitehall and Dillon, but fall to less than 10% for surface based cape in excess of 500 m2/s2. Should the higher instability be realized, ensembles average effective shear is around 30 kts, suggesting a few stronger thunderstorms will be in the cards.

Mountain Snow Saturday in SW MT: Heading into Saturday, the main precipitation shield associated with the upper troughing off to the southeast will extend northwest into portions of Southwest Montana. Deterministic soundings in BUFKIT suggest snow levels fall to around 7,500 ft by Saturday afternoon over the Gallatins/Madisons and vicinity. While many locations in these ranges reside above 7,500 ft, warm ground raises significant concern for the ability for snow to accumulate, especially in areas closer to 7,500 ft. Additional complexity is in place given the snow in these ranges mostly looks to fall during the day Saturday. Hence, although snow will fall in these ranges Saturday, confidence in accumulating snow is very low outside of the higher peaks. A final complicating factor is that recent guidance has trended slightly further south and east with the precipitation, which would limit precipitation amounts in the aforementioned ranges. For these reasons I did not elect to shift the start time of the Winter Storm Watch earlier for the aforementioned ranges (The Winter Storm Watch is in effect starting 6 PM Saturday). Those planning to recreate in these areas should know that conditions will be wet/raw where precipitation is falling, even if at elevations where precipitation type is rain.

Cold front strength Sat Night: Another bit of uncertainty is related to just how strong the Canadian cold front will be Saturday night. NAM family of guidance suggests strong pressure rises behind the front, which would indicate a period of gusty winds. Meanwhile most other guidance is a bit more gentle with the front, allowing the cold air to enter the region in a more filtered fashion. The stronger front also results in snow levels that are quicker to fall, which will be especially important for any opportunities for snow down on the plains. -AM

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.AVIATION... 03/06Z TAF Period

Scattered showers track northeast across primarily western portions of north-central and southwest MT through Friday morning with mountain obscuration and brief MVFR conditions possible near showers. An area of fog has developed near KBZN with some high resolution model data also depicting this potential at KEKS. Extensive mid-high cloud coverage should limit the extent and duration of fog in these areas, but confidence is lower than average. Otherwise, mainly VFR conditions are expected with an increase in showers and potentially some thunderstorms late Friday afternoon and evening. Hoenisch

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.HYDROLOGY...

There will be increased shower and isolated thunderstorm activity this afternoon and evening, mostly over central and southwest MT. While flooding is generally not expected, moisture levels will be high enough to support rainfall rates up to or greater than a quarter inch per hour. Flooding and or land slides over burn scars can`t be ruled out should they undergo heavier downpours. - RCG/AM

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.PRELIMINARY POINT TEMPS/POPS... GTF 60 43 58 36 / 60 30 30 80 CTB 62 38 54 30 / 40 10 40 80 HLN 63 44 57 37 / 60 50 50 80 BZN 70 41 52 35 / 40 50 80 80 WYS 65 35 48 27 / 30 70 100 80 DLN 66 41 53 33 / 50 60 50 50 HVR 65 43 62 35 / 60 30 20 40 LWT 68 42 55 33 / 20 40 60 80

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.TFX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... Winter Storm Watch from late Saturday night through Sunday morning for East Glacier Park Region.

Winter Storm Watch from Saturday evening through Sunday afternoon for Gallatin and Madison County Mountains and Centennial Mountains.

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